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Nov. 4th, 2002 | 03:34 am

it seems that no matter what, we are always being categorized, classified, and labeled. we can't escape it. it is out of our control. it is a damn shame.

throughout my life i have been labeled as many different things. labeled as an outsider. labeled as a loner. labeled as an introvert. labeled as an extrovert. i have been construed as the un-popular. i have been thought of as talented. i have been classified as a brainiac... told i was stupid. i have been the life of the party and i have been the man standing off on his own. i have been the one with all the connections, all the friends. i have been the hub and the leaf.

them: "whats wrong? you are just standing there."
me: "nothing... just doing something different."
them: "but you are the guy with yellow glasses, the dancer, the partier, the first one to get the party going. you are tim.. you dont just stand there."
me: "not tonight. that isnt me."

in other times, places and situations... more classification. i am an "internet person". i am a "livejournal guy". i am a college grad. i am now a local.

sorry people. i am none of those things... and all of those things. i am me. take it or leave it. i just wish for once, someone would remember that. that someone would treat me the same if they met me online as if they would had they met me at a club or met me at an opera or the theatre or anywhere else.

i wish that i wouldn't be viewed as my halloween costume, or my sunglasses, or where i drink at, or who i hang out with. i wish that for once, i would be me.. not him... not you.. not tim... not anything except for the person that is standing or sitting in front of you, talking on the phone, typing to you online, or listening to you.

i wish i was just me. viewed as me. treated as me. thought of as me. apparently though, that is too much to ask. i can never just be me.

i will always be labeled by where i was met, who i am friends with, what i do for a living, who i hang out with, where i hang out, what i do in my free time, where i live, what i wear, how i speak, what i look like, who i look like, what i drive, what words i use, what way i walk, how i dance, where i dance, with whom i dance, who i kiss, who i fuck, who i love, who i hate, and anything else that people care to think up.

i am not a label. i am not where i am met. i am not a category. i deserve more than that. everyone deserves more than that. there is only one label in life.. dead or alive.

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from: udp
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 07:17 am (UTC)
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Welcome to society...

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Tim

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from: visions
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 08:39 am (UTC)
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yeah, society sucks. some day i hope we evolve.

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jaded

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from: flown
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 09:17 am (UTC)
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unfortunately the majority of people in this world cannot deal with uniqueness. everything is catagorized and there's really no way to escape it. we label everything we can: foods, clothes, cities, countries... we doomed ourselves to conformity when we created regions and boundary lines and gave them names.

sucks that it had to get stretched to people's identities and personalities, but everyone is just looking for something to relate to. and they can't pull that off when they are unsure about who people are.

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from: skeelo
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 10:30 am (UTC)
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i disagree

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Tim

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from: visions
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 11:18 am (UTC)
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a firefighter amongst us.

care to elaborate on what you disagree with? is it that we classify things? or do you disagree that regions and boundary lines doomed us to comformity? or perhaps you disagree that people are looking for something to relate to?

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from: skeelo
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 12:50 pm (UTC)
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i'd elaborate on my post and answer your questions were it not for the fact you looked further into my ip before looking further into my viewpoint.

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Tim

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from: visions
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 04:39 pm (UTC)
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such a shame. i was looking forward to the reply.

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KailuaKowboy

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from: kailuakowboy
date: Nov. 8th, 2002 10:14 pm (UTC)
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:-) just would like to point out the irony of "labelling" in this instance. lol!

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Tim

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from: visions
date: Nov. 8th, 2002 10:46 pm (UTC)
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i was curious as to who the random person was that was commenting in my journal. so, i checked. then it was ironic that he was a firefighter, since his comment seemed like trolling... aka starting a flame intentionally. it was meant as a humorous statement.

because seriously, what kind of classification would a firefighter fall under? nothing bad.

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KailuaKowboy

Re:

from: kailuakowboy
date: Nov. 9th, 2002 05:37 am (UTC)
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We all label. It's how we humans sort and organize information. It seems hypocritical to rant about someone calling you "internet guy" and you immediate reel off by tagging someone "firefighter".

My point is that people don't label us because of bad intentions. We all do it so to help us understand each other and know how to deal with each other.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be an ass and if you don't like what I'm saying just delete my comments. It's your journal, you can say whatever the hell you want. I just thought it was quite ironic and very funny!

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jenne

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from: hellloitslate
date: Nov. 4th, 2002 04:59 pm (UTC)
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people like that only matter if you let them, you are you and that's all that should matter. labels suck.
oxox

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The Fearless Leader

Labels Suck....

from: dieselhead
date: Nov. 6th, 2002 08:34 pm (UTC)
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Its too bad that society has to put labels on people. Its too bad that people are shallow enough to do such things.

I never thought there was anything wrong with someone wanting to be themselves. Sometimes someone doesn't know how to be anything else other than themselves, and people find the need to put a label on them.

You seem like an intelligent person and someone that doesn't know how to be anything other than himself and its really a shame that people must put a label on you.

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Tim

Re: Labels Suck....

from: visions
date: Nov. 7th, 2002 11:29 pm (UTC)
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i could make myself "fit" into their labels. i could "mold" myself into their image. but, fuck them.

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The Fearless Leader

Re: Labels Suck....

from: dieselhead
date: Nov. 7th, 2002 11:35 pm (UTC)
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I agree. Why should you have to "fit" into what people want. The one thing that I have learned is to just be yourself.

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Tim

Re: Labels Suck....

from: visions
date: Nov. 7th, 2002 11:48 pm (UTC)
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just like crazy monkey sex. :)

speaking of random stuff, where have you been? i havent seen you on AIM in ages. hop on and drop me a msg.

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The Fearless Leader

Re: Labels Suck....

from: dieselhead
date: Nov. 7th, 2002 11:49 pm (UTC)
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Ok I will do that.

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The Fearless Leader

Re: Labels Suck....

from: dieselhead
date: Nov. 7th, 2002 11:51 pm (UTC)
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Im on there now.

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Theresa Lazzari

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from: funkitreez
date: Nov. 8th, 2002 04:34 pm (UTC)
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dude-you-seriouslty-should-even-care-about-what-other-people-"classify"-you-as
who-cares?
just-BE-yourself-and-take-no-mind-to-other-people.
theres-more-important-things-in-life-to-worry-about.like-making-sure-your-time-on-this-amaizing-earth-is-spent-without-regret...unless-you-accually-like-complaining-about-anything-that-sucks.and-enjoy-being-pissed.you-cant-help-what-people-think-or-say...thats-life,-you-just-need-to-rise-above

everything-has-been-labeled-since-the-begining-of-time...just-cause-theres-a-word-for-you-doesnt-mean-its-a-bad-thing,and-it-sertainly-doesnt-mean-that-you-need-to-care-about-it...fuck-it..
Just-Live

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Tim

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from: visions
date: Nov. 8th, 2002 05:05 pm (UTC)
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i do live. that is the point. this post was more written for others to realize labeling is fucking stupid. i tend to ignore teh labels, i just get frustrated when they keep getting thrown in my phase and that situations or possibilites disappear because of those labels.

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from: xtempest
date: Nov. 8th, 2002 10:06 pm (UTC)
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I'm totally with you there. I can't stand people who label others. However, much to my dismay, I'm sure I subconciously do this, too. It's human nature, and, to put it nicely, it fuckin' sucks.

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jaded

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from: flown
date: Dec. 23rd, 2002 11:49 am (UTC)
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um...aren't all the dashes a little time-consuming?

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Theresa Lazzari

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from: funkitreez
date: Dec. 23rd, 2002 09:34 pm (UTC)
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sure was! I spilled coffee on my board one day, and was too cheap to get another one, i probably wouldnt have got one either if it wasnt for my friend hookin my up with a free one...i just didnt wanna buy one unless it matched my computer, cause its black.
but since it was free i took it:-x
i wrote like that for about 3 months though...
nuts, right?

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jaded

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from: flown
date: Dec. 23rd, 2002 11:24 pm (UTC)
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not as nuts as if you were doing it on purpose, which was my assumption.

glad to know you weren't just trying to be cute (and failing). =)

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Theresa Lazzari

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from: funkitreez
date: Dec. 23rd, 2002 11:55 pm (UTC)
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i see....
right on

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hi ! i need help !

from: nath4n
date: Nov. 9th, 2002 01:48 pm (UTC)
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i need ur help . i want to make my live journal looks like yours . i tried to modify it but i just cant make it like urs . if u're kind enough to tell me how . that'd be nice . thx man

cheers

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Yeah Labels Blow

from: jgirl569
date: Nov. 9th, 2002 07:38 pm (UTC)
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I know how you feel about being labeled because everyday I am labeled. For being an athletic girl, for the fact that I play football, and for the fact that I have brains on my shoulders. I don't know why people tend to do that, but I came to realize its there way of trying to classify what they don't understand or what they wish to have. If you feel like a label around certain people and they basically put you down like that then they are not worth it at all. Being betrayed, used, and tossed away. Life’s constant changing of tides I guess. Hope all goes well.

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Tim

Re: Yeah Labels Blow

from: visions
date: Jan. 6th, 2003 08:04 pm (UTC)
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same wishes to you.

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Don't worry...You'll always be...

from: rkl
date: Nov. 11th, 2002 07:51 am (UTC)
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Labeled: Monkey cock in my book, timmuh.

:)

*muah*

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Tim

Re: Don't worry...You'll always be...

from: visions
date: Jan. 6th, 2003 08:05 pm (UTC)
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horse schlong.

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from: girlplastik
date: Nov. 11th, 2002 09:40 pm (UTC)
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hey.
i saw that you have an extra livejournal code.
if you could give me one, that'd be cool.
thanks.

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Joey the Apostate

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from: purplemanatee
date: Nov. 13th, 2002 09:12 am (UTC)
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I don't know you, but I found that you share several of my interests, and I really like your glasses.

That having been said, I read over this entry and must say that I agree with you. The original intention of dichotomization was to separate things into understandable chunks, and it works moderately well in science, but abysmally in terms of people.

Nevertheless, I operate with certain 'labels' and exchange aforesaid 'labels' with other people many times during the course of an average day. For if I say, "You seem like you are very intelligent," as I had thought about doing in response to this post, would it not be labelling you, thrusting you into a group called 'the intelligent ones' and giving you some of their characteristics, whether good or bad, true or false?

Alright, end chatter from random personage. Ta-ta!

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Tim

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from: visions
date: Jan. 6th, 2003 08:06 pm (UTC)
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yeah, however.. sadly.. it is one of the ways our brain works psychologically. :-\

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Kilikina

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from: klatica
date: Nov. 20th, 2002 11:32 am (UTC)
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Not all lables are intended to hurtful unless they are put forth in that purpose. If you are the life of the party one weekend and then aren't the next and people wonder what's up, it's not because they labled you, but maybe they think something is wrong because you took yourself out of the action.

And the glasses.....well, they ARE bright yellow. They DO draw attention which is obviously something you like, or at least don't mind. I don't think you should be offended if people do notice. What do you think of with Elvis? His hair! Or that thing he could do with his lip...but they're physical features that stood out.

Being known as the "brainiac" or "stupid" or anything else like that just lets you know that you have somehow left an impression on this person, and that's an awesome feat. Our brains are efficient machines and we file things away under "lables" so we can reference them whenever we need to. We do this so that we may be able to remember things and I think it's a good thing when people make an effort to remember you. I think you should keep that in mind for future reference.

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Hmm

from: grandmasterkim
date: Dec. 2nd, 2002 12:02 pm (UTC)
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Well, I remember reading somewhere than even as babies we catagorize things. It is a natural survival instinct so that we know on sight if the thing in front of us is dangerous or not and how to react to it.

For instance, if you ever had a baby sibling perhaps they saw a cat and decided that all furry small animals were then considered "cat". Then when they first saw a puppy they pointed and said, "cat". After you told them, "no, no, doggie" multiple times they might adjust their catagory to say that doggies go woof woof while cats go meow, or something to that effect. Then if the dog attacks the child they grow up afraid of dogs because their brain associates dog with pain or fear. This is a defense mechanism meant to protect the child from harm. We would all be dead if we never learned that prehistoric cats were dangerous and kept going up to them and trying to pet them.

It is the same thing with racial or sexist stereotypes. It's natural to do, but the problem comes when people go too far with it and rather than use their brain's catagories as a guideline they see it as fact and written in stone, completely unchangeable. That's the part I dislike.

Extreme : bad
Balance : good

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ティッツィー

Re: Hmm

from: silfactor
date: Dec. 8th, 2002 12:48 am (UTC)
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This makes complete sense, and I follow you exactly. With stereotyping, though, I find that you're seperating yourself from even the most basic and historic groupings and classes. For instance, in religion, you have basic groups (unless you take into account the hundreds and thousands of Protestant denominations), and all have a basic opinion of the other. Many were raised to think of Jews as a group to be distrusted (mainly during the early 20th century); many were raised to see Christians as infidels who couldn't accept the Kuran as the final testament (heh, actually, vice versa for the Christians, who saw Islamics as infidels for believing it was in fact a final testament). Sure there are stereotypes that go hand in hand with pretty much every religion, but what I'm pointing out is the grouping of mankind into these named, listed, organized social orders to be able to segregate themselves and be in a group of fellows. So, this same idea has been used for nationalities, and the current American example can be the extreme anti-Islam/Middle East feeling that has been spread to our children and to our slightly less...intellectual citizens. Stereotypes are used as a result of completely human needs of bonding and brotherhood with others sharing the same view.

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ティッツィー

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from: silfactor
date: Dec. 9th, 2002 07:05 pm (UTC)
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Oops, I should point out the alienation of the Jews throughout history, rather than just the 20th century. Quite the difference.

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Beth

woot!

from: magicpostitnote
date: Dec. 9th, 2002 01:50 pm (UTC)
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I aggree with this. Alot. This is sort of an akward question but... Do you mind if I use this as a monolougue (did i spell that right) to audition for a play? If you don't want me to, If it makes you feel odd, I won't. I thought I would just ask before taking. Thank you.

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Tim

Re: woot!

from: visions
date: Dec. 9th, 2002 02:55 pm (UTC)
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as long as it is credited to me, i don't mind.

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Beth

Re: woot!

from: magicpostitnote
date: Dec. 9th, 2002 03:20 pm (UTC)
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Of course I'll credit you, I'm not some evil bastard with no class. Thanks a bunch.

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Annie

keep shattering the illusions

from: purplelephant
date: Dec. 10th, 2002 01:03 pm (UTC)
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in our society today this is a fact that is sad but true

i agree with all of your thoughts on how people are always being labeled

just recently i've had conversations with a few people in which they told me that i didn't fit their 'preconceived notions' of me

so it was interesting that by random chance i found and read this post...
almost like echoing my own thoughts of late

thank you, for sharing

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:: aunty cngel ::

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from: ccg1785
date: Dec. 15th, 2002 03:05 am (UTC)
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hey,
I dont no u but i like ur post. Can i judge you on ur thoughts? cuz I like them :)

In the words of...god someone from RENT - "Labels are for cans" :)

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Mr. Grrrrrrrrrrrowl

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from: cobaltbluetony
date: Dec. 30th, 2002 01:45 pm (UTC)
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I realize this entry is old, but I identify with what you say here.

On the X-Files, the statement was made that people don't like things that can't be "programmed, categorized, and easily referenced." With other people, they like to be able to sort them into neat little forms, and act on that stereotype/simplification. They do not take the time to see what is INSIDE a person, to get to know them as a unique individual, or even to ponder the possibility that there may be significant differences between that person and every known stereotype.

I am who I am. Sometimes actions define a part of me, but not all of me. If I paint, does that class me as only artistic? What if I do some engineering too? Then they plop 'renaissance man' on me, and suddenly I'm a cool anomoly, but still classifiable. They still cannot tap into the essence of me, my spirit, beyond what is common to all men.

And don't worry. I will not attempt to ask you LJ client questions in your personal journal.

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Chris

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from: spaceninja
date: Jan. 7th, 2003 11:53 am (UTC)
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Well said, man.

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from: selinakyle
date: Jan. 28th, 2003 11:36 am (UTC)
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i know in Philly, "you are what you're drinkin'"

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My Lable

from: aloisious
date: Jan. 31st, 2003 02:58 pm (UTC)
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I am labled as a slut/party girl! Everyone in my class thinks that I am the bad ass bitch who always gets what she wants! I hate it because it so like isn't that way! They also say that Im too like valley! Or like whatever. But when it comes down to it, I'm so who I want to be and I don't fucking care what people think of me! That's my reputation! I'm only concerned about my character! And I'm like so happy with being wild! I mean that's me! Screw the damn lable and like be YOU! XOXOX

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Tim

Re: My Lable

from: visions
date: Jan. 31st, 2003 04:18 pm (UTC)
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I am me. That is all I will ever claim to be, and that is all I want to be.

Anyway, as I said in response to the other post, feel free to msg me sometime.

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